Catted vs catless downpipe mk7 gti forum. Thread starter FirstCarGolfR16; Start date Apr 27, 2021; F.

Catted vs catless downpipe mk7 gti forum Because I've done countless 20-22 with with  · Welcome to the #1 Fiesta ST Forum and Fiesta ST community dedicated to Fiesta ST owners and enthusiasts. The black line from the dyno is with an AWE catted downpipe. 7% Catless Votes:  · Mk7 tsi 1. Part #: CTS-EXH-DP-0014. Mk7 Reactions: GoatAutomotive , icin235 , hotbascosauce and 3 others  · There's been a lot of talk around here lately about drone issues for those running an aftermarket downpipe (catted or catless). I currently run an AWE track exhaust, but I'm planning to v-band in a Vibrant resonator as per GTI Jake's thread. Downpipe What's the best brand ? There is a huge thread in the technical section of the forums. The ARM MK7 GTI Catted Downpipe is an essential upgrade if you're looking to get the most from your Gen 3 EA888 equipped GTI. CBFA here stage 2 APR with a catless CTS Turbo downpipe with one Vibrant J spacer  · 2020 AUDI A3 / EQT Stage 2 E85 Tune / CTS Turbo Inlet Pipe / Autotech HPFP / MAP High Flow Catted DownPipe 2013 VW GTI / Unitronic Stage 2+ / CTS K04 Port n Polished / DIY TT-RS Clutch / I have a catless CTS DP and only smell it if I'm parked with the windows down and the wind is blowing it in the  · That means the secondary O2 sensor goes post-cat for the stock, but pre-cat for the CTS. Not really any drone on my end. Depo Racing 2015 – 2021 VW GTI Catless Downpipe. The v-band is a  · 2016 Mk7 GTI S Midnight Blue 2dr 6MT | LP | Unitronic Stage 2 | Bull-X Catted Downpipe | Unitronic Cat Back | Unitronic Intercooler | Southbend Stage 3 Daily Clutch | VWR Drop in Filter | BFI Stage 1 Engine Mount | BFI Stage 1 Transmission Mount | 034 Dogbone Mount Insert | Rs7 Spark Plugs  · 2016 GTI S 2 door, stage . In terms of fitment, the real issue is the angle of the straight section of the downpipe. In stock cars, the stock catalytic converter is  · Ill just be the one to say you won't feel any difference in performance from a $1200 downpipe to a $200 downpipe. Thread starter daujin_mk7; Start date Feb 12, 2019; daujin_mk7 Go Kart Champion. Miltek has a similar design, as does Bull-X–which is my  · Your summary is true. KW EDC Cancellation VW MK7/7. I always suggest running a catted downpipe no matter what. 5 GTI PP. Location PA Car(s) 2016 GTI DSG Feb 12, 2019 #1 Hey all. the first is visual inspection. I doubt the catless version would flow much differently  · 2016 GTI SE w/ LP, PP, and DCC JB4 | Baun Performance FMIC | MAPerformance GESI Catted/Resonated DP | DKM Stage 3 Twin Disk Clutch | Iabed RMS | BFI Stage 1 Dogbone Insert | IE CF Intake & Inlet Pipe | CTS Turbo Inlet Pipe | Neuspeed Rse10 19x8 on PS4s | BFI Weighted Shift Knob | Euro Short Shifter |  · Golf GTi MK7 Down Pipe Installation and review by Gregv Finally installed the downpipe and wanted to do a comparison. This includes their 3" in / 2. The Trackslag downpipe flows 429 CFM @ 16″ of H2O which is approximately 150% more than the stock Mk7 GTI downpipe under the conditions described for this test. Since you already have a catback, I would do the catted  · Also as a data point: I used the amazon spacer with a catless downpipe on an otherwise stock car. Technical Topics. I was wondering if it’ll give me a check engine light. GTI Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Tunes . GTI Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Tunes The guys at pacific German mk7 gti has a cts downpipe with an upgraded turbo making over, 400whp so I would say go for it! [emoji41][emoji106] I'm looking at the CTS and UR catted downpipe, and will have to deal with the PP issue as well  · Stock downpipe with APR cat back sounded good.  · I've been looking at downpipes for the MK7 GTI. ARM Motorsports Catless Downpipe for VW MK7/7. Thread starter Daily Driver; Start date Jun 23, 2021; Prev. A previous post addressed a test of the stock GTI downpipe and USP Motorsport catted downpipe. I don't plan on getting a catback exhaust, so I'm looking for the catted downpipe I buy to add performance and sound. Yes I'm aware of IE's superb quality. I like the option for a resonated Background: Baun Performance sells a 400 CPI GESI catted downpipe and an accompanying 3. 8T to an IS20. AWE ALL THE WAY! It's the best sounding exhaust in my opinion. Exhaust/Exhaust Tip/Downpipe . pros and cons? What are the most popular brands? Thanks in advance for guidance and/or referral to appropriate  · Deciding if I want to go catless or catted (high flow) milltek downpipe Catback is 2. I had concerns that future tunes using the Cobb Accessport may cause the CEL to illuminate if I continued to use a Trackslag catted downpipe, so I switched over to the Baun  · Forums. F. Same physical location in space, but different positions in the flow of the exhaust gases. '16  · Simple question (I hope). 5, Catted and Catless) Eurojet turboback exhausts combine the  · At the start of May, APT installed Iroz MPI and LPFP, Vortex XL, ethanol sensor, APT 4 bar sensor kit, and custom fuel lines on my car. Catless downpipe? ('06-'08) Jump to Latest '12 VW MK6 GTI 2. Been having oxygen sensor issues lately and wanted to know if this spacer could be making things worse. The ARM catless was also compared to a  · Forums. i'm going with catted for a couple reasons. IMO, if you want to run a cat, either get the DBV2 with the cat of your choice, or order a catless trackslag and have a cat welded in (unless you can find someone running a pre-catted trackslag  · I'm upgrading my IS12 turbo in my 1. 71 CAD $654. For example, I went from a catted downpipe with cat back exhaust on my GTI to a  · Forums. Will the 2-1/2" downpipe help things  · Might pull the trigger on a downpipe within the next few weeks and need help deciding. I'm planning to install just the downpipe on mine with stock tune and hopefully get some dyno figures before/after. Looking for a catted or catless downpipe. Figment too will also typically be better A post made yesterday showed the results of a comparison of estimated power and torque when switching the downpipe on my GTI from an ARM Motorsport catless to Trackslag catted. Nice deep idle, amazing cold starts, throaty sound with no drone  · *Slaps roof on car* *Car Riceburners* 2006 Cobalt SS, 380 WHP - Sold Because Old ///// 2015 GTI SE: Stage 1 - Sold because poor ///// 2012 GTI: K04, DSG and tons of mods - Sold because DSG ///// 2016 GTI SE PP: Stage 2 and stuff - Sold because S4>> ///// 2016 Audi Manual S4: Stage 1 - Sold because house /////  · Forums. I would say if someone looked at it, who didn't really know what the factory downpipe looked like on the car, they probably wouldn't even know it was aftermarket. I noticed all the service guys run highly modded GTIs so I'm currently building a relationship  · Can confirm, the catted CTS downpipe isn't that great for cutting down smell. sets readiness no problem but has thrown a fault for o2 sensor slow response once before. Thread starter WonderWaffle Start date Feb 23, 2020; Catted or Catless? Catted Votes: 57 87. I used 1 extension piece on the side of the L that does not go into the downpipe. usp catted downpipe . Im very much wanting to make my own.  · I'll most likely go catless DP with a resonator and mufflers on the CBE. Performance Pack), MK7 Jetta GLI, MK7 Golf 1. 00. New posts New profile posts Latest activity. GTI & Golf MK7 General Discussions . Come join the discussion about performance, engine builds,  · Catted vs Catless Downpipes. Cts vs. The stock downpipe is built with a dense catalyst that hinders exhaust flow on your EA888 engine, causing higher back-pressure, increasing turbo lag and causing your turbo to work 2017 MK7 GTI 4Dr Sep 23, 2020 2017 MK7 6-Speed MT - Catless Downpipe - Res Delete - JB1 - BOV - (Various OBDEleven Apps) S. The catalyst is like a sponge that absorbs a lot of that higher pitched rasp, a resonator is a straight through  · The reason that VW uses the cat that they do is because it's the cheapest possible solution that meets emissions guidelines. DP03  · Catted vs catless downpipe + TOMEI. I got the eBay catless downpipe for less than $100 and welded a 200 cell Magnaflow cat. Maybe I’ll get my hands on one of the more “quiet” DP’s like AWE or ultimate racing catted and 2. The catless Trackslag downpipe  · Best thing to do, is ask around your local forum and go to some meets, and hear and ride in some different setups to see what you may like. I'm looking at kind of different sides of the price spectrum. Suggestions on which route, is high flow much different, save me in long run  · “Resonated catless” and catless are the same thing, one has a resonator that, while it helps, isn’t going to do as much as I think you think it is. The MTC Motorsport catted downpipe is a great option that is also popular among MK7 Golf R and S3 owners. jimmypaul. It made supporting the weight of my AWE catback and preventing rattles against the 2015 – 2021 MK7 / MK 7. Catless to Catted Downpipe. The downside: The dreaded CEL. CTS Turbo | Mqb Fwd Exhaust Downpipe Catless - Mk7/Mk7. 2015 VW Golf R, 2005 Audi Allroad V8, 2018 VW Passat  · This was resonated and paired with the CTS Catless Downpipe sounds amazing. 2015 GTI SE CSG - 6MT | Full Bolt Ons | Burger Tuning JB1  · Wits, USP gained 22whp/25ft/lbs from theirs (catless assumed) with everything stock so you'll definitely notice a difference since the stock downpipe is so restrictive. Test Procedure: Each downpipe is connected to a flow bench using a straight silicone coupler hose. Engine, Exhaust, Drivetrain, Bolt-Ons, Tuning AMS Full Downpipes (catted vs catless) Thread starter CaliforniaZ; Start date Sep 7, 2024; Watchers 3; CaliforniaZ Well-Known Member. If the emission test is visual and uses OBD2 port, then your catted downpipe will pass this one. These downpipes are made from USA made Rath Gibson 304 stainless steel, hand fabricated in house, and come backed  · Some of you reading this (you know who you are) I have read literally hundreds of your posts, and they have been extremely helpful in guiding me (if GTI Jake would just make a Mk7 R DP there would be no need for this thread but here we are). Nov 12, 2015 2015 Lapiz Blue Mk7 Golf R Past: 2012 Shadow Blue Mk6 GTI -- REVO Stage II/Eurojet Turbo-Back Exhaust/REVO Intake/REVO  · Hello all, I have been pouring over the forums looking for an aftermarket downpipe that is less prone to throwing cel’s with a stock tune. This downpipe is $600 new and you are getting a practically brand new one. Come join the  · If the DP is Catless how can the stock map run long enough with out throwing a code to pass inspection. Subliminal Autocross Champion. 5 Golf R. VaVag 2019 GTI bunny Aug 16, 2020 #7 Mk7 GTI Downpipe Testing; Mk7 GTI Exhaust Tests; Mk7 GTI FMIC Tests; Mk7 Intake Manifold Tests; Mk7 GTI Intercooler Test; Mk7 Radiator Tests; Comparing Virtual Dyno generated peak wheel horsepower estimates using an ARM Motorsports catted downpipe and ARM Motorsports catless downpipe showed a 7 whp  · Stratified Automotive Tuned---Stratified Automotive DSG Tune---Injen Evo Intake---VWR springs---RS7 plugs---MAPerformance catless downpipe---Custom turbo back with Magnaflow Magnapack---Majesty Twin cooler Intercooler---ECS Tuning Carbon fiber rear wing---Aerofab v1 Splitter---19x8. 1  · CTS Catless Downpipe,CTS Cold Air Intake,CTS TMD,CTS TIP,CTS TOP,CTS Throttle Pipe,CTS Crank Pulley,Audi Resonator Delete,Unitronic Stage 2 Ecu/Tcu,Centre Console Opened,Tinted Windows 5%Back 20%Front Unleash power with CTS Turbo's 3. Boost onset has been compared between an ARM Motorsport catless downpipe and ARM Motorsport catted downpipe. Hello TeKiZeRo, yes first think i thought is install a catted downpipe and if stills to loud make de midpipe resonated, do you know any resonator thar makes the car less louder? A forum community dedicated to Nissan GT-R owners and enthusiasts. Catted downpipe or catless downpipe for mk7. You will not be able to use it with an aftermarket downpipe. 5 Gti Autobahn PP : Eqt Vortex XL tune by Stratified, Dsg tuned Apr Dtr6054 file, Mamba 3" turbo inlet, Dbv2 Tmd, Apr coil packs + spark plugs, Mishimoto charge pipes, Ie v2 intake, Custom Vibrant Fmic, Custom 4" dp, Apr v2 Catch can, Apr cat back, Ecs street shield and exhaust tunnel, Can’t decide whether to go catless or catted? Want that sound and performance boost but wish to stay road-friendly at the same time? VW EA888 MK7 MK7. Switching out the downpipe can change all of that. It was a little PITA but once I got the right sockets, extension, and universal it came off easy  · Forums. I'm considering doing the same thing to a gti downpipe though since it's larger diameter piping. 5 GTI, R $650. 5" reducer to connect to the stock exhaust system, and a straight 3" adapter to connect to upgraded cat-back exhaust systems. Have their intake and Intercooler on my Mk6. Super Quiet, No Drone, with Performance. krisprz Ready to race! Location Yorba Linda, CA Car(s) 2018 Golf R 6spd Oct 5, 2018 Mk7 GTI Oct 5,  · Catted vs catless downpipe. The Trackslag 4″ downpipe for the Mk7 GTI without a catalytic converter was flow tested using a PTS flow bench. Downpipe is sitting  · As a California driver, what are most people getting away with downpipe wise since CARB makes our lives more difficult? Do you guys go catless w/ stage 2 and not worry about it at all (flash and reinstall stock dp before smog), shell out cash for an AWE or Neuspeed DP, or take the chance with another  · SLD Whoosh high flow catted downpipe: For Sale: 1: Mar 29, 2024: C: FS Quickspool catted DP, ATP oil feed line(NJ) For Sale: 18: Feb 27, 2024: K: WTB Mountune Crossover Intake and catted Downpipe: Want To Buy: 29: Sep 19, 2023: D: WTB Looking for a thermal catback with or without a catted whoosh PROFILE. :R. Test Procedure: First, The ARM MK7 GTI Downpipe kit comes with both a 2. Golf R Discussions The AWE, APR and Remus sound nice, but both pricey, compared to a catted downpipe.  · I want to install a catless non resonated downpipe and keep the rest of the exhaust stock. $400 pickup. I was just looking to get some feedback from folks regarding the pros/cons of each. 5 Golf R? Thread starter krisprz; Start date Oct 5, 2018; 1; 2; 3; Next. Thread starter jimmypaul. Yes it's been off the car for a few months. Will these codes cause issues at a dealer visit? I assume the o2 sensor code wouldn’t be a huge deal but wasn’t sure if anyone had any bad experiences with warranty  · Therefore the option is go super cheap with the incredibly affordable godspeed downpipe or spend a lot more for a catted spm or UR. I'm aware that downpipes in general add sound, but do some give give more throaty, deep tones than others? Sent from my LG-H810 using Tapatalk This GTI MK7 / MK7. Also not sure if you have to get a tune to avoid check engine lights. I have the track edition exhaust with a Catless downpipe. Our products include performance parts, replacement parts, OEM parts, lighting products Scorpion Downpipe and Cat / De-Cat - Volkswagen Golf Mk7 GTI Features: - 3" Diameter Stainless Steel Pipework - Stage 2 Remap Required. Location Surrey, BC, Canada Car(s) Mk7 Golf R  · If I were to buy a downpipe again I would easily go with either Megan Racing or Depo Racing. I am trying to decide between catted and catless downpipe. I really wouldn't count on the others. GTI & Golf MK7 General Discussions my results could also be extreme cause i went from catted to catless also - but i do have a friend from catless 3" to catless trackslag and he gained 300-400 rpms on spool of his UM tuned vortex xl car. Location To date I only know 2 catbacks with either APR or CTS catted dp that do not drone: AWE Touring and Borla Type-S I have personally rode in them. However I don't think  · Sorry for the late reply. 7% Catless Ultimate Racing catless downpipe | Majesty IC | APR HPFP | Custom tuned Eurodyne Maestro | 034 TCU tune - Misc : Extreme Spulen insert,  · Catted vs. Some questions were asked about how the same downpipe  · Trying to decide whether to get catted DP or a Catless one and use with my stock CC. The USP downpipe does not. 8TSI, MK3 Audi TT (FWD only) and 8V Audi A3 1. Previously a CTS Turbo 3. Catted downpipe has worse emission than stock downpipe but still at a manageable level when compared to catless downpipe. Menu. Description; Catbacks are for Car Shows, Catless is for racing. Save Share 2020 GTI Autobahn - Pure White - DSG Totaled - 2015 R - DCC/DSG - APR Stg II (93HO) + TCU tune - all the goodies. Sale. PASSING EMISSIONS: One of the biggest benefits of a catted downpipe is that it increases your chances of passing emissions. 5″ Stainless Steel downpipe for the front wheel drive MQB vehicles such as MK7 GTI (incl. 5" Stainless Steel Downpipe for MQB vehicles like MK7 GTI and MK7 Golf 1. I run catless and have the 90 dollar ebay downpipe, haven't had any problems in thousands of miles. It's a full 3" (76mm) system with a coupler to mate to the stock exhaust. This is direct replacement for the factory Front pipe, but with larger size pipe diameter. What's new. * The catalytic converter in the ARM GTI catted downpipe is significantly less restrictive than the OEM catalytic converter, allowing it to increase the power of your 2. 5" out cat, in order to bolt up to the factory catback. 1; 2; 3; Next. In the end, a downpipe is a piece of metal. Catted downpipes provide slightly less horsepower (about 5-10 lesser) but they have much more pros than the catless version: significantly less emission, no unpleasant smell, and has lesser The 4" Trackslag catted downpipe is compared with ARM Motorsport and CTS Turbo. I still have the stock cat back. Welds are good and  · Forums. e. Next on my list is a resonator as  · For example, I went from a catted downpipe with cat back exhaust on my GTI to a catless resonated downpipe with the stock exhaust. If the emission test uses a sniffer, then any catted downpipe with highflow CAT can fail. DSG farts  · Hey everyone! We are now proud to announce our first couple of fabricated goodies for the MK7 GTI! First thing we are going to start out with is our catted and catless downpipe's. Ambient air temperature differences prevented a valid comparison. 2017 GTI Sport - DSG - Pure White Engine: EQT Vortex + Tune, Integrated Engineering Intercooler, Downpipe, I used to own a fast mk7 - But the m4 forums are dweebs. I live in California and emissions are strict, but that’s not really a problem for me lol. The down pipe is great nice welds fitment is good, I got about 2500 with no CEL and I had the car idling the other day for a little while and the CEL did come on. Best Catted Downpipe ? Thread starter VaVag; Start date Aug 16, 2020; 1; 2; 3; Next. Add to cart. GOLFMKV. The products are a stock Mk7 GTI downpipe and a USP catted downpipe. Designed for optimal performance, featuring CNC machined flange, mandrel-bent tubing, and modular design. [emoji41] My exhaust isn’t resonated and my R is a manual so don’t have to worry about the DSG fart. Working on Video Comparison coming soon. If you leave it in place the stock resonator is sufficient for eliminating drone (buzzing, unpleasant vibrations felt through the chassis of the carcan cause headaches and fatigue and is overall tiring after any amount of  · Deciding if I want to go catless or catted (high flow) milltek downpipe Catback is 2. Mary need s reducer as 1. The ARM MK7 GTI Downpipe is an essential upgrade if you're looking to get the most from your Gen 3 EA888 equipped GTI. APR catted downpipe with APR cat back was way too loud, even with the valves closed and it also sounded kinda raspy. Euro spec Mk. Feb 22, 2019  · Obviously this is a China knockoff. Thanks, J 2017 GTI sport DSG PP - is38, Tuned by EQT, 034 Carbon intake, CTS & ECS hot/cold pipes, Forge twintercooler, Majesty stock location intercooler, Maperformance catted & resonated downpipe, ST coilover, ST rear sway bar w/ ECS end links, ECS toe link, SPC camber arms, powerflex trailing arm bushing,  · Eurojet Exhaust Systems are now available for all 2015-Current GTI Mk7 and MK7. 90. Quote 02-27-2022, 08:04 PM  · What is the IE 200 cell catted DP rated for? Just wondering if there would be any performance advantages to the UR DP with metal cat (100 cell) vs IE DP (200 cell) at higher power levels. There's also been a long debate for those that are already stage one and add the downpipe but don't go stage 2 right away. Picked up 300 rpm going to a catless TS. The v-band  · Forums. jp New member. the cheapest full length catted downpipe (replaces midpipe) is probably helix. TECH. Get a catted downpipe from apr, awe, map, bull x, or Nuespeed. Catless is a cheaper price. Top Section: Catless, no charge Ceramic High Flow Cat Downpipe +$135. mk7matteo Go Kart Champion. People gave me shit for doing a stage 1 tune with a DP, but regardless imo it'll make more power vs a stock DP. Clint Beastwood. Apr 27, 2021 #1 Hi Guys, I used to be Stage 2 with catted downpipe and now I  · Previous Mk7 owner (2015 GSW TDI, 2016 GTI) P. In order: 1990 Volvo 740, 1998 Volvo 850, 2004 Volvo S40, 2007 GLI, 2004 Volvo V70R, 2014 Subaru Forester XT, 2006 Audi A6 Avant 3. So I purchased a Trackslag Catted Downpipe Friday night, Father's Day weekend  · Volkswagen GTI / Golf MK7 General Topics. GOLFMK8. Going from sound clips online the catted options definitely sound more refined and clean with the stock cbe while cat less employs more of the Gti tractor noise which can The cost of a catless exhaust system typically ranges as follows: Catless Downpipe: $150 - $800 Catless Full Exhaust System: $400 - $2,000 Installation: $100 - $500 Prices depend on the vehicle model and brand. Catted Vs. Marketplace. VWTURBOFAM Ready to race! Location TEXAS. 5 Trackslag Catted Downpipe with Baun Performance Midpipe Silencer. I went with a catless dp by MAP to a AWE track exhaust where I hollowed out the muffler. 5 2018+) Downpipe (Catted 200 cell) Downpipe (Catless) Modular Hybrid Turboback (Mk7 and MK7. 5 GTI Trackslag 4" Catted Downpipe. Mk8 R. 5 Golf R? Thread starter krisprz; Start date Oct 5 , 2018; Prev. If the smell bothers you imagine how it is for people behind you in heavy traffic or drive thru are effected by it. GTI Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Tunes The same person said "a catless dp with stock cbe mk7 is as loud as a mk6 with full TBE". thanks for your help. Skip to content. But the REV9 downpipe has been proven to be OK for what it is. Not sure on the new 7. In stock cars, the stock catalytic converter is the primary choking point to make power with a turbo. The cat is a 100 cell metal cat instead of the stock 400 cell  · Volkswagen GTI / Golf MK7 General Topics. Engine and Exhaust . Flow testing will not necessarily correlate to engine performance, but when trying to select among different downpipe options to install on the GTI the  · Mk7. GOLFMK6. Recommended  · The OE cat is welded to the OE downpipe. 5 Golf, Gti, Gli, A3 Fwd. New posts Search forums. Anyway, any Euro spec 7. Jump to Latest You have a CC and you are posting in the MK7 R forum? :screwy: 2015 MK7 . The stock downpipe is built with a dense catalyst that hinders exhaust flow on your EA888 engine, causing higher back-pressure, increasing turbo lag and causing your turbo to  · Just got a borla s-type 3 inch catback installed on my 2017 GTI and originally planned on going with a CTS catless downpipe and a stage 2 pop and bang tune from unitronic. The DSG farts was one of the reasons I Mk7 GTI Downpipe Testing; Mk7 GTI Exhaust Tests; Mk7 GTI FMIC Tests; Mk7 Intake Manifold Tests; Mk7 GTI Intercooler Test; Mk7 Radiator Tests; Mk7 Turbo Inlet Hose Test; Mk7 Turbo Inlet Elbow Tests; M520h WGDC – Catted (R7) vs Catless (R7-TS) This scale of change, or greater, to the turbocharger WGDC PROFILE. FirstCarGolfR16 Passed Driver's Ed. 5! Configurations Cat Back (MK7 2015-2017) Cat Back (MK7. Will be running catted. Background: Continuing an investigation of the affect that downpipes have on the engine performance an ARM Motorsport catted downpipe for the Mk7 GTI is subject of a flow test. In this test the CTS Turbo Front Wheel Drive MQB 3. I tried many different combinations of spacers (jetted, angled, stacked, etc) and none of combinations  · Catless downpipe or catted with the o2 sensor before the cat = Vibrant adjustable J spacer with the medium insert, pointed as up stream as possible. System comprises of: - Downpipe with 200 Cell Sports Cat or De-Cat - Fitting Kit Notes: - Engine management light may be activated if not used in conjunction with the correct  · I have a barely used CTS Catted Downpipe for the Mk7/Mk7. 95 Save 15% - Stock Mk7 GTI downpipe and the USP Motorsport downpipe are subjects of a flow test to evaluate how they compare. I used to  · Forums. Save Share ARM Motorsport catless downpipe is installed on my Mk7 GTI to test how quickly boost pressure builds compared to catted downpipes from ARM and Trackslag. In order for the turbo to spool fast and compress the air for the engine, the exhaust needs to escape freely. The catted will mellow and soften the sound a little more. Jump to Latest You'll honestly not gain all that much with a catless downpipe. I've heard mixed opinions and respect them all. Catted or Catless Catted or Catless? Catted Votes: 57 87. GTI & Golf MK7 General Discussions Wanting to know if i can install a CTS Catless Downpipe on my 2017 Mk7 GTI without tuning for a long time. Appreciate 1 zjiyuan89 17.  · Thought I wanted to go the catless route but after a couple of conversations with some buddies, Im going to go the high flow cat direction. 83 @ 115. Anyone have suggestions on doing catted downpipes vs catless - I was told on this forum there are some issues doing catless with o2 sensors etc and obvious emissions. First I just want to say that removing the stock downpipe on ramps and jackstands with performance pack and without removing any heatshields or dogbone to get more access is doable but literal hell  · My mk6 had a catted APR DP and a muffler delete, and it was about perfect.  · Forums. Location Vegas Car(s) Slow FWD VW Hatch Here's a Sound Comparison of Trackslag Catted Downpipe with  · Volkswagen GTI / Golf MK7 General Topics. I would like to have a catted downpipe and Circuit Werks Latest MK7 High Flow Catted Downpipe.  · Will fit. 2017 MK7 GTI S / APR Stage II ECU Tune / USP Catless Downpipe / 034 Dogbone Insert / OZ SuperLeggera 19x8 / Neuspeed  · A high-flow catted DP is the way to go. Catless  · I run AA catted, I have been debating swapping into an armytrix catless but both my local clients with 23's running catless have been having tons of overboost and throttle closure issues so getting nervous that 23's are not liking being catless on the stock tune. shipping: Free Shipping to the lower 48 states. Thread starter FirstCarGolfR16; Start date Apr 27, 2021; F. E. Main Concern: Is there any risks running a catted downpipe on  · GTI Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Tunes  · I read many reviews of downpipes, expensive and affordable, and the consensus was "a pipe is a pipe, as long as they use good material, it should work fine and last long" and noticed that no one had any reviews on affordable or ebay purchased catted mk7 downpipes. 2016 GTI SE 6MT IS38, ED Maestro, CTS DP, IE Intercooler, IE Closed Air Intake, CTS TIP, Neuspeed Charge Pipe/TMD  · The tune will be on sale again around Christmas time, it always is. The downpipe is from BCS/Powervalve in the UK. Aug 13, 2018 #1 Looking for a catted or catless downpipe. Catless. It fits perfectly no rubbing or issues with it on. 5″ Cast Downpipe is being flow tested using a Background: ARM Motorsport provided a sample of their cat-less downpipe to conduct a flow test as a follow-up to the flow test with their catted Mk7 downpipe. Back; Exhausts . Still louder than stock, but much more quiet than prior. The Subaru specialty shop that will do the install mentioned that the catted will lose about 10whp. Location San Diego Car(s) MK7 GTI Aug 16, 2022 I have the catted cts downpipe with res delete and it sounds great imo. Intercooler V1, cts intake, eqt charge  · either buy just the short downpipe (bosal, scooby sport, stromong) that uses the stock midpipe. The intake is awesome, sounds excellent. This really discourages me from getting a downpipe. Catless Downpipe vs Catted Downpipe. I ran both stage 1 and stage 2 GIAC software (which does not override the CEL for catalyst efficiency) and a Eurojet 200-cell catted downpipe on my CBFA TSI MK5. Plus it wont smell. WTB: Catless/Catted Downpipe. unparalleled quality and great price point all make the CTS Turbo MK7 FWD Downpipe a must  · I had the cts catless downpipe on my r and it sounded pretty nice with the stock catback exhaust not too loud. 8TSI. ChristopherNeil Autocross Champion. 2000 Post  · Catted Downpipe vs Catback Exhaust (interior noise) Thread starter yantastic; Start date Aug I’m in my 30s and the Borla Exhaust is starting to get old for my MK7. 0T, 2015 VW Golf R, 2005 Audi Allroad V8, 2018 VW Passat 2. SugarMouth Drag Race Newbie. So I ended up selling the DP and going The main advantage of an upgraded downpipe on the MK7 Golf GTI lies in its enlarged diameter, which allows for a more efficient evacuation of exhaust gases from the turbocharger.  · Looking at these two catted options. my buddy has a full turbo back from cts on his mk6 gti and i have a catted downpipe and magnaflow exhaust and I cant hear his car over  · It looks like I have decided to go with a Cobb TBE. As expected, a catless downpipe provides more airflow, which in turn produces more power, spool, and torque. Let me know please  · The stock downpipe is the only major restriction in any mk7 exhaust 1. Unitronic Performance  · I don't think you'll have much luck.  · So I ordered a cts catted downpipe for my mk7 gti. If you want catted Depo Racing usually has a catted varient, maybe contact them to see. I have the catless one. MK7 GTI  · catted or catless downpipe. I'm looking at the cts catted or either the neuspeed or AWE catted. Golf R Discussions Mk7. D. html In comparison to APR's: Are catted DPs quieter than catless? Unitronic ECU/TCU Stage 2 | Ultimate Racing Resonated Ceramic Cat Downpipe | VW GTI ClubSport S Muffler  · I bought the CTS Turbo downpipe and the intake. 0T while still going to  · But for manual transmission guys we can’t even tune because of this shit clutch. 2019 GTI SE | Pure White | Electric Cutout | Ebay Twintercooler | CTS Catless Downpipe | JB4 -> Accessport V3 w/ Stratified We are proud to release the new CTS Turbo 3.  · MK7 GTI 2017 / ED Stage 2 93Oct / DSG ED Tune/ Downpipe / KyN Panel Filter / Muffler Delete / 034 Aluminum Dogbone. 25 vs 2. The aftermarket downpipe was found to flow more than the stock GTI downpipe. The high flow cat + the position of it being further back means it doesn't get to proper operating temp very quickly if at all, so it's not all that efficient as a USP 3" Stainless Steel Downpipe For MK7 GTI, Golf, A3 FWD (Catted) Brand Description: USP Motorsports offers thousands of products from hundreds of manufacturers. GTI Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Tunes teel-Downpipe-MK7-GTI-Golf-A3-FWD-Catted. 2017 MK7 GTI 4Dr Sep 24, 2020 #18 CarlosCanizares said: 2017 MK7 6-Speed MT - Catless Downpipe - Res Delete - JB1 - BOV - (Various OBDEleven Apps) CarlosCanizares Autocross Newbie. 5.  · MK7 GTI JB4 w/ downpipe vs 10th Gen Civic Si w/ either Hondata Flashpro or Ktuner flash + PRL intake + PRL downpipe For the 10th Civic Si A 33psi custom tuning w/ KTuner calibration resulted in 275whp / 350 wft/lb or 255whp / 320 wft/lb on a safer level of boost. If you're looking for a catted downpipe, we offer a  · Adding a catted CTS downpipe to our S3 shortly as well for those who are at H2O this year you can come check it out I also plan to keep the stock catback which I hear might limit my choices of catless/catted and differs between manufactures as well. Torqbyte controller, Precision Raceworks MPI 1300cc injectors, ceramic coated Cts turbo catless downpipe,mst turbo inlet pipe, I. Go. Tweet. I put on a 90 degree spacer on CTS and even so, it threw a code. For my 3000GT, the CA version added another set of O2 sensors (luckily mine is federal;)). I believe NY and a few  · Catted downpipe is better than catless downpipe if you are driving on the street – especially if the car is a daily driver. I'm going to remove it and let it read those catless fumes instead of trying to trick it. 8t cts catted downpipe.  · +1 many cars still have "federal" and "CA" versions of the same car. Just run the downpipe while being stock with no tune at all! downpipes are bad for emissions, they smell,  · Forums. When searching, Depo Racing's offering  · So I have an mk7, 2016 GTI and I'm looking to add a little more sound. Forums. can't remember off hand  · Hey everyone. Mainly USP Motorsports and 42DD Downpipes (Both Catted). My question is: If I use an O2 Sensor spacer, will I still eventually get a CEL if I buy a used downpipe? Should I buy a new downpipe to make sure I dont get a  · Forums. As mentioned by Chronic, catless is out of the question. There is a  · I'm looking for the best balance of price, (lack of) noise, and CEL avoidance. I know that AWE guarantees no CELs in their downpipes (with cats in the proper place). Mark Bockwich Custom 4"  · I've just taken delivery of my new Skoda Octavia RS245 which has the same EA888 engine and IS20 turbo as the new Mk7. I only want more sound (pops, tone, and a little raspiness) from my car I have a muffler/resonator delete and it's still way too quiet. Performance will be about the same, with maybe 1-2 hp tops in the higher RPMs with catless but nothing you will feel or see on a dyno consistently. on our cars the catback makes the biggest sound  · Hi all! I want to get some advice on a catless downpipe setup that won't throw a CEL on stock for when I have to re-flash back to the dealer (providing they don't get weird about me changing the pipe. Aftermarket catless downpipes show next to 0 increase over catted versions, so don't cheap out and get one with a Catbacks are for Car Shows, Catless is for racing. CAD $556. The stock downpipe has a slight incline towards the bottom of the car. Full stainless steel construction. I guess if I can't find one by the end of this month I'll order a DEPO Racing catted downpipe.  · My recommendation would be to get a catted downpipe with the cat in the proper place.  · So don't be thinking you are somehow saving the environment if you buy Catted. Next Last. Deep tone at idle, nearly stock at low rpm (normal driving), no drone on the highway, and aggressive without being too loud at WOT Now my mk7 only has a muffler delete (stock DP) but Id imagine it'll be about the same if I do  · I've been scouring online for a used catted downpipe but have had little luck in finding a seller. Forgive me for not understanding. So I  · JB4 - ARM FMIC - 034 TIP+hose - Vorshlag camber plates - Audi TTS LCA - Audi S3 subframe - H&R front sway - Superpro rear sway - Koni Yellows - GTI springs, VW 15x6 Lyon wheels, Falken Sincera SN250 ASs 195/65r15, Llumar Air Blue 80 Tint everywhere The ARM MK7 GTI Catted Downpipe comes with a single 200 Cell High-Flow Catalyst to reduce emissions and exhaust odorscommonly found with catless downpipes. Trackslag (catted) vs ARM (catless) Power Estimates; ARM (Catted) vs ARM  · What is the HP lose for a catted downpipe vs a catless downpipe. 5″ resonated midpipe for the Mk7 GTI. The CEL will come on if you go with a catless downpipe even with the cel eliminator spacer! Hope this helps  · As most of you guys know, I'm running game the stock downpipe with a gutted cat. I went catless with the CEL eliminator. Free up your engine with this catted Downpipe! Increase power and improve the sound of your MK7. 52mph (OEM IS20)  · TL;DR: MK7. Also, you will see decent gains from just the downpipe. 75" The price difference for catted is 650, so 1450 total. Thread starter bpw; I used to own a fast mk7 - But the m4 forums are dweebs. Joined May 31, 2024 Threads 14 Do I have get a tune with AMS Catted Full Downpipe? JDM Z; Jun 26, 2024;  · Curious how many people run catless downpipes vs catted? I realize theres a fuel smell with catless and hp gain is minimal. Plan on doing the same on a mk7. 7 GTI - two cats. Even if 100% properly installed and sealed up, it still will smell like you describe. This also sucks cause I have a straight pipe and its not loud enough It needs more tone (I used to have a straight piped vr6). The catback alone already pops and is pretty loud, and so now I’m thinking about going catted and just regular stage 2, since I’ve heard  · APR Stage 2 ECU - APR Carbonio Stage 1+2 - 42 Draft Designs Catted/Resonated Downpipe - Neuspeed Charge Pipe and Turbo Outlet Pipe - GFB DV+ - Fluidampr Crank Pully - HS Tuning RSR clutch -H&R 24mm rear swaybar - Unibrace UB - HPA Red Puck -Neuspeed Rse12 Hyperblack Catted and If paired properly with a tune, your MK7 GTI can gain upwards of 80+ hp. Also not opposed to throwing the stock catback on. This connection utilizes a CNC machined v-band system for connecting between the downpipe and adapter of your choice. Catted or Catless. Some of the most expensive options use superior cats regardless if the cell count is the same. I see you're in PA, so if you really want to run a non-catted downpipe you can. is it worth it to get a catted down pipe i can't deside which one to buy to run stage 2. Thread starter elliott_mk7tsi; Start date Dec 10, 2021; elliott_mk7tsi New member. Volkswagen GTI / Golf MK7 General Topics. On my car (19 GLI) I have a cts catted downpipe, resonator delete, and muffler deletes with 4” tips. A forum community dedicated to Subaru Impreza and STI owners and enthusiasts. Features a high flow catalytic converter and is made from high Quality stainles Background: This post continues an investigation of the flow performance produced by different Mk7 exhaust components. My loss is your gain. 5 GTI Autobahn Sep 18, 2024 curious if anyone got there hands on a aftermarket catted/catless downpipe Schematic To build. Suggestions on which route, is high flow much different, save me in long run (reliability wise)?  · Backstory: I recently installed a CTS catted downpipe on my MK7. Catless to Catted Downpipe . Back; 2006 - 2013 E92 / E93 M3; 2006-2011 325i/325d Sedan ; 2007-2012 335; G20; E46 M3;  · Also, I'm pretty sure the fitment issues on the GTI have to do with the catback, not the downpipe. Fitment, material, and sound are the other factors that cost does affect  · Volkswagen GTI / Golf MK7 General Topics. 00 USD (3-inch 400 cell ceramic core high flow cat to replace the restrictive OEM catalytic converter. What's the difference i. CTS Turbo 3. peppy2 Ready to race! BMS turbo inlet pipe | Ultimate Racing catless downpipe | Majesty IC | APR HPFP | Custom tuned Eurodyne Ready to race! Location Hawaii and Utah. The stock downpipe is built with a dense catalyst that hinders exhaust flow on your EA888 engine, causing higher back-pressure, increasing turbo lag and causing your turbo to  · Catless can be a little raspy/tinny at times which the catted versions don't get, but it doesn't bother me too much. Check out AWE, or any other resonated downpipes that are catted. 5 Alzor 020 The stock Mk7 GTI downpipe was previously compared to an aftermarket downpipe equipped with a catalytic converter in a flow test conducted using a flow bench. I am getting a GESI catted downpipe because I cannot pass emissions. The orange line is from this week switching to a Trackslag catted downpipe. CTS Catless Downpipe | ECS Kohlefaser Luft-Technik Intake | APR Turbo Inlet | JB4 Map 2 | E85 3 Gallons But now I want more. 1; 2; 3; First Prev 3  · Power difference between Catless and Catted Downpipe. Any pros or cons of either one? GOLFMK8. I want to upgrade to a catted DP at the same time to get more vroom with my JB4. 1 of 3 Go to page. Installed a Vibrant resonator between the stock mid-resonator and rear muffler. 5 – VW Golf GTI / TSI Downpipe Catless $ 269. 5 Golf GTI downpipe 5) Porsche 95B Macan  · Catless will definitely be louder with your catback. Likes: ron@whoosh and LaserWhisperer. Many cars with turbochargers end up being restricted by the poor nature of their own exhaust pipe bending. 5″ Stainless Steel Catless for the front wheel drive CTS Turbo items are "Special Order", delivered within 2-5 business days! Free Shipping. The ARM Motorsport catted downpipe has been on my GTI for a while now and with the arrival of a Baun Performance  · MAP's race cat, for example, is just a low-cell GESI cat, not their EPA line). was more difficult to remove? I had the rear downpipe off when I replaced the rear turbo. I believe it's Quieter then stock! On IS38 Turbo.  · This is exactly what I was wondering. APR catted downpipe with stock exhaust and center resonator removed is perfect. Striker23 Go Kart Newbie. Something tricky about downpipes is do you go catted (with catalytic converters) or catless (without catalytic converters). Thread starter chadlogan112; Start date Dec 22 , 2016; 1; 2; 3; Next. Thread starter VWTURBOFAM; Start date Nov 12, 2015; V. 8 exhaust is 2.  · What's the difference in price and user experience with or without a cat in your aftermarket downpipe? I loved the general burbles of catless when slowly rolling in 1st gear on my mkv; will a hi-flow cat eliminate that? Is it quieter  · Catless I can care less about the quality, but when it comes to catted it does matter. I have ran a catless downpipe on the The ARM MK7 GTI Catted Downpipe kit comes with both a 2.  · Catted vs. product code: DR10075. APR catted downpipe with stock cat back was good. Depo Racing 2015 – 2021 VW GTI Catted Downpipe.  · 2016 Audi A3 Quattro S-Line: - Bolt-ons : RS Performance Open Intake | BMS turbo inlet pipe | Ultimate Racing catless downpipe | Majesty IC | APR HPFP | Custom tuned Eurodyne Maestro | 034 TCU tune - Misc : Extreme Spulen insert, H&R rear sway bar, VE Haldex Controller 11. GOLFMK7. I had no problems running mine w/o spacer or tune for ~1000 miles. 8T/GTI/R. 5″ cat-less downpipe was flow tested and I am interested to learn how the 3″ ARM cat-less downpipe compares. I'm building a full 3" 304/304L stainless steel catback to fully eliminate this issue and bring the exhaust note down to a more civilized level than my current set up (Cts catted  · Forums. (I was Explore a comprehensive comparison between catted and catless downpipes, examining performance, emissions, sound, and other considerations that influence your choice. Trackslag 4" downpipe for the Mk7 is flow tested in the catless option. fghtffyrdmns New member. 5 GTI $585. Save Share We’re the best Subaru Forester Owners Forum to talk about the best years of the Subaru Forester, modifications and reliability history of the Subaru Forester. I loved the performance gains and the DP installation was very straightforward and the dp fit perfectly. Golf R Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Tunes . The ARM MK7 GLI Catted Downpipe is an essential upgrade if you're looking to get the most from your Gen 3 EA888 equipped GLI. Like you, I wanted the flash-from-home The ARM MK7 GTI Catless Downpipe comes with a single 4" Resonator as standard on our catless downpipe to improve exhaust sound. I was thinking IE catted downpipe, removing resonator, and keeping stock muffler in place. The conclusion is that the stage 2 tune vs the stage 1 tune  · MK7 GTI Performance Pack - APR Stage I Powervalve catback (WRC variant) get the downpipe.  · It is generally suggested to get a tune with a downpipe to turn off the CEL The main reason aftermarket pipe designs are this beneficial is pipe design, diameter and smooth transitions in the curves. . A good amount of sound does make its way into the cabin on throttle and slight drone when cruising. Doesn't mean it can't be registered in CA, but at the time of manufacture, they designed them to burn cleaner. The volume is slightly lower but the tone is higher and a tad raspy. . The temps were in the 90s this . You're saying they use a bigger, more complex cat to save money? Lol okay guy, I think this conversation is over hahahaha Oh look, the AWE pipe is bunged out, guess why  · I found Stage 2 with APR catted downpipe to be much louder than Stage 1 with stock catted/resonated downpipe. 8TSI (FWD only, not Quattro). IF - the welds and quality isn't bad - provides better flow - resists to rust (T304) Then I don't see the point of paying 600-700$ + Downpipe experts for the MK7 GTI  · I’m still 50/50 on whether to go catless or catted. For me, it was too loud, especially under throttle. Location 2015 GTI - Bought new and after 10,000kms, I went straight to Eurodyne Stage 2 with a CTS catted CP. Expect 25hp/25lbs/ft gain +/-5 with most of these. Downpipe is a direct factory replacement, no modification required. It was used for less than 1500 miles. jp; Start date Aug 13, 2018; J. Airflow rates are compared with the Trackslag catted downpipe and other aftermarket DPs. Location Ontario. that one is $400. 0T, 2018 PROFILE. Could be uprated hardware perhaps. 7. CTS or APR downpipe Would you recommend a CTS catted downpipe ($550) and pay $175 for the APR stage 2 or go APR downpipe ($769) that includes the Stage 2 tune? I have an Invidia DP and the quality is very nice  · Keep your stock downpipe and do an OEM muffler delete for sound, Stage 1 tunes do not get faster with a downpipe and its honestly pointless to run Stage 1 with a downpipe. Location Audi S3 subframe - H&R front sway - Superpro rear sway - Koni Yellows - GTI springs, VW 15x6 Lyon wheels, Falken Sincera SN250 ASs 195/65r15, Llumar Air Blue 80 Tint  · NA spec Mk. Show Less . No issues for a few days but now I get rich/lean codes often, seems to be after cruising at higher speeds. I heard you can buy an o2 sensor spacer but I’m not sure If that’s only for catless downpipes. Private Classifieds - Buy, Sell and Trade. 5 GTI Performance as it is now Euro 6C* compliant, while the 7. I am going to pop off When a car is fitted with a turbocharger, for example, a change in downpipe can actually boost airflow and thus enhance performance. 5, gonzo 2018 Mustang GT, 10r80, pp1, E85 tuned. I am doing to do the aFE intake, CTS turbo muffler, and cts outlet and do the stage 1 tune. Sportwagen FWD), MK7 VW Beetle 1. 8TSI (incl. Register for an ron@whoosh[/MENTION] has an affordable catted an catless downpipe. This resonator is a straight through design, it does not block exhaust flow as the resonator is only around the downpipe, not inside of it. In other words, because the CTS cat is located so far down from the turbo, the spacer is gonna be as effective as it's gonna be on a  · Recenty installed the Cast and 200 cell catted Milltek downpipe and thought I should share my first impressions. 5 non-PP is still just Euro 6. 7 GTI - one cat. Feb 22, 2019 #82 Vortex XL GTI - 545whp/490wtq Engine built and tuned by me. Location Earth. 0T w/ DSG. I know I'm paying for the price of the cat with the latter options but is it really worth more than  · 2018 Mk7. 42DD catted downpipe with 42DD o2 spacer. Even with a high flow cat your exhaust will cackle however my catless exhaust does not shoot flames, has a very distinct odor, and the sound doesn't change much The Fora platform includes forum Trackslag downpipe for the Mk7 GTI is swapped out with the ARM Motorsport downpipe to evaluate the affect on boost onset times. usp catted downpipe. Apr 11, 2017 #14 Compared to a local forum member's GTI, my 200 cel catted DP  · Currently running a CTS catted downpipe. 0 GTI including the Clubsport has been single cat. Keep in mind I will be adding a non catted downpipe at the same time. Emission. the best price of those (bosal) is around $230. jfnsw wjvbzil vkkbb fbdwph svz truugqp tfmxl vmb jsdbsc oxwljm ncepxw jjdmu aygozk rczk mboqc