Cat 3126 hull truth. Interested in ride and quality of these engines.

Cat 3126 hull truth Those engines are solid if well maintained and run in the right application. They never gave me one drop of trouble and were very fuel stingy. Maybe you can find a good RTO cummins or Cat. Join Date: Jun 2021. looking at the closest direct replacement engine with more horsepower. Boat is a planning hull 37 feet about 18. The Cat block is 7. 3: 1996 Ocean 45 SS with Detroit 671's with about 2400 with MOA done 400 hours ago. Completely different beast from the mechanical 3126 420hp and lower. I can't get any information from my local Cat dealer except to say that a wiring diagram is inside the box on rear of engine and should tell you what your looking for. A few hints for better 3126 longevity: Beware of 3126's with French blocks! Check the blowby carefully on a survey. Junior Member . Hang-on parts will fall to marine age before the lower end gives way. We were balls to the wall all day long with the motors. The total bill was under $5,000 (for both) but they were delivered to dealer on a flat-bed trailer,, not in boat. Boat- 2003 40' Ocean Yacht Super Sport Caterpillar 3126b Port motor replaced in 2005 - hours 500 (no idea why, first owner) Starboard motor 2003 - hours 700 We used Twin Cat 3116 T/A 350 hp for 10 years (93/03) 4000+ hours and sold them for 1/2 what paid new. They still turn up to 2800 with a full load on a 40 Ocean. Would much rather have the 6CTA in a SR 450 than the smaller Cats. The Hull Truth - Boating and It has Cat 3126 engines with under 400 hrs since a major overhaul (but still nice). First off - yes, I just had my aftercoolers serviced and will replace with C7 soon. Sep 23, 2014 · Thread: cat 3126 raw water impeller / heat exchange. Engines have factory alarm system installed but never hooked up by previous owner. Nov 25, 2024 · 2004 35 Express, CAT 3126B's approx 2200 hours, Coolers were replaced about 3 years ago, Garmin 7612's at helm, 7610 in tower, Helm air, Chiller plate in drink box, etc All the normal stuff. With the financial help of Cat repowered in 2001, within 800 hours had to replace another head. Location: Ted Kennedy's Socialist Utopia The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum (https: Oil recomended for a Cat 3126 . 3116 is 6. My cell: 239-248-7460 John Campbell AMS The 3126b has had aftercooler problems that caused engine failures, but I don't have much experience with those. Caterpillar 3126 Owners, I just bought two new oil filters for my 2001 3126 Cat engine. looking to buy a boat with either CAT 3126 or Yanmar 6LYA-STP engines. The owner had big troubles with the original engines; caterpillar finally admitted to a manufacturing defect and put 2 brand new engine in last Post 16797227 - TheHullTruth is the premier boating and fishing forum on the web! CAT Diesel Marine - 3126 vs 3126B - Questions Hi folks We run a 36 Newton and up til recently had a Yanmar 6CXM engine in it - but, had an overheating / coolant system problem with that engine, and had to make a decision between a re-build of that engine or a locally available 're-built' CAT 3126B. I called the guy and he was very knowledgeably about Cat engines and designed this to save thousands on injector replacement if and when a HEUI detonates. I purchased a 2003 Rampage with Cat 3126b's in September. 1l bigger bore per cylinder - they sold about 20,000 of those for marine use and over 150,000 for the non-marine markets. Jan 5, 2020 · Seem a lot of the ones I consider have either the 3116 or 3126. At 1200 hours head cracked, at 2000 hours other head went. I would stay away from the CAT 300HP boats. cats are smoother and smoke less for sure along with superior torque and less rust issues. The new number I am told is #324-2598. Would have preferred a comp with the 480ce. The 3116 & 3126 were disasters, not Cat's finest momemt. I am very inexperienced when it comes to diesel marine engines. Gonna need to work them HARD to run planing speed. Broker states engines were rebuilt in 2006 and have approx 200 hrs since rebuild. The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum (https: Truth is the 10 micron is way too small for the old Perkins same for the Cat 3126. 1. CAT has just completed working on the engines and have blessed them as perfect. Can anyone tell me the cost on 1000hr service on Cat 3116's? A couple boats i'm Well I have a small problem. Interested in ride and quality of these engines. View Single Post 10-15-2017, 05:10 PM #1 CoastalRunner. So started up my boat this week. Thread: Cat 3126 rpm loss. Used for fishing inshore to the canyons. Admirals Club . Any input would be appreciated. Was flagged as “Attention”. the engines have 2000 hours on them in total so I figured I’d rather be safe than sorry … but if it’s really not necessary than I’d rather save the $$$ So out of the blue my starboard engine has an electrical issue. They were a bit under powered. Since I would only need to remove a few more items to remove engines I went ahead and pulled them both to give more roomn to refurb and paint engine room. I would rig up a raw water flush kit and run a reverse flow solution "barnacle Buster" through your raw water side. The 480 has wet liners. There might be a special CAT tool to make the job easier. I have a 36 Ft tiara with twin 350 HP 3126 engines (good blocks) with 2000 hours (engines were built in 2000) on my way to cabo I ran pretty hard mostly at 2200 RPM for 2 days (400 miles) then started with combustion gas bubbling in my coolant overflow I am in the process of buying a used boat. Everything works as it should $185K. Just wondering how many hours a well run, maintained engine will last. I understand longevity has a lot to do with how it was run in the past and keeping up with normal maintenance. The 3126B was a huge problem and I would stay away from them. Reply Like Thread: CAT 3126 Impeller Replacement. Hi y’all. Since it has no liners, any issue means engine comes out. At 2400 rpm I am running at just under 70% load according to the CAT laptop, and I don't cruise about 2300-2325. Many times Cat would cover the basic block and not the labor, average labor was over 10K. She looks great and has just about every option on it available from rampage. moving onward. 6 liter. Those 3116's are rated for 30,000 gallons of fuel before rebuild - that works out to between 4,000 to 6,000 hours, so with 1,800 hours, they are at most 1/2 used. Looking at a boat that has a 3126 350hp motor. Corndog38 Owners of CAT 3116 or 3126 engines that have recently changed their oil and have been using CAT approved SAEO have found that CAT has discontinued the availability of this oil. I had the tanks opened up and cleaned. 38 and 40 are the same hull depends on year of vessel which determines Anyone have had success with a specific prop configuration that gets a little more speed on a 30. Posts: 1 Likes: 0 Apr 6, 2007 · This info is consistant with what I have heard as well on the 3126. Had a total failure of one motor and worked out a deal with Cat to repower. Edit to add. Put the lube inside the pump body. Cat redesigned the turbos around '98'99 with a built in silencer. It's a bracket for the throttle. Yes, has worked on 3126’s many times. Join Date: Jul 2013. It is about 22,000 lbs dry weight. View Single Post 09-23-2014, 05:24 AM #8 Fletch. In contract on a 1992 sea ray 400 express with twin cat 3126 deisels. They were sent back to the Cat dealer 2 years ago at 1800 Hours. In a previous general thread on the sedan bridges, ZZ13 was kind enough to disclose that he thought they were excellent engines but a bit underpowered for his particular boating needs/style. makes me wonder if its not a sea ray issue rather than CAT. If 450hp that is a 3126B, with electronic unit injectors. I understand that will not get you to $3500 though. Hello Hull Truth Members, I wanted to thank everyone helping me with their experience and wisdom as I choose to make the journey from outboard driven to diesel engine vessel. Any feedback on a CAT 3126 blowing white smoke out the exhaust when run to temperature? No collant loss and the motor runs fine, no smoke at idle either. Anyone have some idea how some? Has a large round Shroud over main component wt two bolts. Suck oil out with oil change pump. (Pershing 37) Which engine would you go for and why? May 6, 2021 · After a couple miles at hull speed, it would plane again but resumed skipping after maybe a mile. Turns out they weren’t rebuilt and the port engine grenaded the other day. 6. no experience with 3116's but have spent many hrs on a 31 cabo with 385 hp 3126's and i cant think of anything negative to say about them, and thats just not like me. they make 350 and 385 hp 3126's as well. The 3126 is the replacement and electronic version of the old 3208's. With less then 800 lost another head. 01 hp per liter, the Cummins makes 54. Fuel burn depends on their state of tune. Have my eyes on the FPT N67 and the Cat C7. A pair of the older 350 hp 3116's would burn 22. When I switch on power for engine start, port engine beeps and when started, beeper shuts off. Heavy means good ride but is going to use more fuel. The Mercruiser has its oil change interval at 100 hours, the 3126 is 250 hours. Machine shop can't straighten. My dealer offers big savings for that (actually they do very little in-boat service). I had the 3126's in my 1996 Express Sportfish. I origially spec'd the boat with 440 yanmars but am rally pissed they will not paint the engines white for me. Boat is in pretty good shape for its age. Aug 25, 2021 · The Cat 3126 had two engines both called 3126. . The one big plus to Cabo is no production boat is built 3126B's are the electronic version of the 3126, usually rated at 420 or 450 hp. The new turbo plus the walker airseps with silencer makes a big difference running at cruise/wot. I've asked CAT, Teleflex, Glenn Denning. I've been told by several mechanics that once you get to 400hp and up the motors longevity can be greatly reduced. Apr 4, 2010 · Finally decided to replace head gasket and the head on Port motor. Purchased with cat 3126’s. Huge mid-season blow. Personally I wouldn't by a boat with 3126 motors. I have owned 3 3126's and the suck some fuel compaired to other motors in the same HP class. View Single Post 02-04-2010, 08:55 AM #4 jerseysportfisher. I have a pair of 3126 A Cats 420 HP. Not my choice of a motor. Join Date: Jan 2002. Many say that engines with the soft blocks and/or bad valves failed within 200 hours, and just about every boat I'm looking at has at least 500 hours or more. 3 liters, bigger and more capable beast. 350 hp @ 2800. I know several boat around here with 3126's and they have had various levels of success with the 3126 compared to the almost flawless performance I have seen out of the Cummins in the boats I have seen use them. As I understand it, these engines are available from 350-450 hp. The Cummins 6CTA is 8. Suggest oil samples , good Cat mechanic familiar with the 3126 and 3116 Cats for engine survey. Cat was very pro active in a campaign to check them and repair as needed for the customer even if they were out of warranty. Once they "fixed" the issue and rebranded the engine to C12 it enjoyed a successful run in CAT's lineup until CAT basically gave up on the smaller displacement segment and began licensing engines from other manufacturers. Cat helped me repower but made me do 3126's again. That is about 365 gallons or 6. The engines have 600 hours. One down side to 31 cabo it is a fuel hog. The 480 was sort of a "bridge" technology used til CR came out. Sound cautious? You bet! The Boating Forum - cat 3126 - Okay know this is vague but have tried to research them with mixed reviews. He said they may very well be fine for another 1000’s hours but why take the chance and have them detonate and send metal into the aftercoolers. You may also call me, a hull surveyor with a diesel background and ask me why. Great boat. Im hearing more and more that CAT wants those engines to run 208+. I had CAT come and do a survey as part of the purchase and found no codes or issues. Between three boats NINE motors were replaced in a three year period and No it was not all covered by warrranty. Serial number 1ZJ01150, arrangement number 1790782. They are starting to weep a bit of oil, but not too bad. That's a lot of boat for 3116/3126. If I recall from a friend who had a 32 that I fished on, it was a bout a 1:1 mile to gallon boat. I have Strut is bent. He sold a bunch of them and stated by far and away the 3116/3126 were the way to go. Cat really struggled in the mid-late 90's with those soft blocks. 4: 1999 Luhrs 36c with Cat 3126 with only 500 original hours and original owner. Imo, I would rather have any diesel with 1,800 original hours over the same engine that has been rebuilt. Note each engine holds about 6-7gal, not 5qts. We went from 16-18 GPA to 8 flat 8 GPA when we changed from cat to yanmar. I assume that comes off but I’ve got attachment right in the middle of it. I wasnt aware that Cat made the 3126 in 300hp - most are rated in the mid-400hp. View Single Post 06-03-2022, 08:03 PM #7 Capt JamesC. I have the 450hp 3126b's and pitched them to reach north of 2800. 4 litre Mercruiser carries 7 quarts; with 4x the oil, it should last at least 3x as long. But as the revs go up the voltage drops to as low at 12. If you go CAT, I would rather have the 350HP 3126 motors. You might want to load 3000 pounds of water in the engine compartment and see where she sits. Looking for pros and cons on 2003/2005 Cabo 35 express with Cat 3126 B engines. The engines would only turn 2600 RPM. I have 6 3116/3126 engines in my customer base. A friend of mine blew the original and replacement 3126's before the boat saw 600 hours. they are also 700 pounds lighter. I think a 3126 is around 1600 pounds plus a 3126 tranny is light compared to and old allison. 7 will fit both are lighter and smaller than the Cats. Seems like I might be leaving something on the table but I figure that's better than pushing them to the limit and beyond. Nov 12, 2017 · i ve had cummins 5. If you don't have one, get one. When installing the new impeller, zip ties do work but you need to apply some sort of lubricant to make the job easier. View Single Post 09-09-2022, 02:00 AM #8 SFfisherdude. It will run at hull speed all day without missing a beat. Jul 23, 2012 · We used Twin Cat 3116 T/A 350 hp for 10 years (93/03) 4000+ hours and sold them for 1/2 what paid new. I assume you're talking the express, not the flybridge. I've also seen it on Searays that run the same eng. 4 at the same speed per the Cat website. Today go to start it and when I turn on the rocker switch at the helm it trips thebreaker on the DC panel. I had decided to replace all hoses, belts, etc. 3126B is an electronic beast which evolved from the 3126TA. 9 or 6. Thread: CAT 3126 repower options. Have found comparisons of the Cat 3126b to the Cummins 450, in identical Tiara 3800 Opens, and the Cats were rated better. 21 hp per liter. Trying to decide if I Hi y’all. 790 hours on the motors. Thoughts? 3126B or 3126TA? Warm up engines til oil filter is like 100-120F. The 3126's suffered from a series of soft blocks. Is it possible to tune these mechanical engines up to say, 400? My boat seems to be only good for 22 it’s running ZF 2:1 gear and 4 blade 20X23” wheels. I recently had the aftercoolers done and the motors serviced. I can not pick between the 440 Yanmar or the 450 3126b cat. Join Date: Jul 2009 Hull is 30ft Island Hopper Boat 3126's seem to have a different story. Posts: 6,703 Likes: 2 Received 2,966 Likes on You’re answer right here. Change oil at minimum every 100 hours without fail. Don't cruise them over 2400 rpms. Personally know friends that had these motors in different model Sea Rays. The problem is the guy who bought it did so from a friend who basically dumped it to him. Thread: Cat 3126 Junction box Tripping. The old filter number was #116-9924 that the mechanic who worked on my boat just bought in Ga. Location: Cape Canaveral I have a pair of Cat 3126. Boat is a 2003 Luhrs (company in the tank and therefore can't get one from them) with a 2 inch shaft and cat 3126 power. He said this filter can withstand 6,000 psi and protects the injectors I just bought $$$$. However the ACs on the MUI motors can get hairline cracks on either end where they bolt to the head that can cause a loss of boost. Cat 3116/3126 A good percentage of boats I'm considering are powered with these engines, which based on research seem to have an undeserved bad reputation. It had a couple of issues in the early days of its life with a premature aftercooler failure that in some instances would get into the engine requiring a rebuild. 40’ Charter boat. But I am seriously looking at a 32 Albemarle with Cat 3126 engines with 2200 +/- hours on each. I know there's a lot of assumptions with my question, but simply put, if the engines were properly serviced/maintained, and reach proper RPM at WOT, if they have 1,000 or so hours, are they Thread: Cat 3126 1000hr service cost. The Hull Truth - Boating and I’m looking at 2 boats first one has 2000 cat 3126 power with 250 original hours and the other is a 1998 cat 3126 with 1600 hours My Cat 3126 were 1996 vintage, at 200 hours they were recalled by Cat major upgrades. i think the cat is the better mechanical engine but that is after owning the three. New motors head on one failed at 800 hours. CAT just got done adjusting the valves and the boat will still only turn 2600 RPM. This last set got a slight refresh (out of boat) last year at a CAT dealer but only routine stuff. Senior Member . Different injection pump and aftercooler plus lots of other changes that had issues. Total hours 4500. Where should I go to try to find a new one? ANY direction and help would be greatly appreciated. Secondly - I found out on my trip home from Fl to TX that I had about 2 lbs of junk in my fuel tanks. 1998 40' Ocean SS The Hull Truth - Boating and Cat 3126’s for power, 30-35 GPH cruising at 23-24 knots. 4 Mercruisers) to a twin diesel inboard (40 Ocean Yacht with Cat 3126) and the maneuverability is night and day. First point is what HP are they throwing out? The 3116's AND the 3126's BOTH had problems in higher HP models. For another choice, Gary Gillespie from WPB is a solid Cat engine surveyor as well. Nov 11, 2019 · I am looking closely at a 2001 400 sedan bridge with twin cat 3126 engines. There is no free lunch in hull design. Join Date: Nov 2021. If you know the specific tech spec please share. No one will admit to having made the darn thing. 3126's are Cats. Thoughts? CAT backed rack off a bit and and we are closer to this having a happy ending but the idle surge once engine is warm keeps this saga from being over. CAT 3126 has long history of this so either I set idle to 700 and live with a little bit of a surge or I keep tweaking things and spending money. I don't think the yanmar would have lived as long as the cat did in my application. Recently purchased a boat with 3126 Mechanical Cats. Thread: Cat 3126 B. View Single Post 01-01-2021, 10:58 AM #12 fireisland1. The current C-7 afters are the ones requiring the new pipping arrangement. I went from a twin inboard gas boat (wellcraft 330 coastal with 7. 24 liter, the Cummins 8. View Single Post 04-05-2018, 08:08 PM #5 Liquid Lunch. Not a bad engine, but the B has a history of aftercooler problems that get water in cylinders. We had the 3126 - 300's in our 01 Albemarle. 9s and cat 3126 and 3116 and yanmars. Get it started and lightly tap it in with a hammer, 100 hours on most modern 6-32 litre diesel engines is excessive for a similar reason - A CAT 3126 carries 7 gallons of lube oil; a similar displacement 7. Completely different. 6 gph 400 rpms off of top end and the current 370 hp C7's burn 23. CAT 3126 420 HP is 2800. It's oil change time and I have used CAT's recomended oil in the past. every problem with a 3126 i've ever heard of was in a sea ray. During its run, CAT sold approximatley 14,000 3116 for marine use and another 135,000 for on-road (mostly buses) and off-road use before going to the 3126, which is the same motor with a 0. I've heard that some 3116's had the soft French blocks, and that some 3126's swallowed valves, but that wasn't the trend I saw. 2: 2001 Ocean 43 SS with Volvo 74p with around 1100 hours. 3126's have a spotty history, just have them I was doing a fuel tank replacemnt on a 1987 42' Harley. Feb 19, 2016 · CAT really, really mishandled the design flaw with the 3196 aftercooler leading to the class action and many unhappy customers. if maintained properly all are good engines. Posts: 7,874 Likes: 175 I recommend looking at the CAT service manual. I been on a 31 with the 6BT 370 hp engines there is more room in the engine bay than my boat. The bracket is in the middle of the pic (if it loads). Even with throttle the Wellcraft didn’t do what the Ocean does. 000 lbs. Motors need 1000 service. Went through 3 heads in 5 years. The 3126 Cat has proven to give good service over the years. It was plugging the tank pickups and Racors. We have Twin Cat 3126/420HP with 1900 Hours. Black smoke means a lot of things, too much fuel compared to the air flow, air inlets too small, worn injectors, worn turbo, clogged air filter or props that are too big. It is going in a brand new 32 topaz which is being built as we speak. I bought the boat in Septemeber. Next set was 3126 T/A 420 hp installed 03, now got 1100 hours. Port engine came back with 32ppm lead and 48ppm iron. Two previous owners and he never did get service records. Found that the Port motor vibrated more than previously and took 10+ seconds cranking to start. Heat exchangers and aftercoolers were removed and serviced prior to my buying the boat. Join Date: Sep 2008 The engines are 3126 420 hp with 1900 hrs 1: 2000 Ocean 40 SS with Cat 3126 with around 1600 hours and well maintained. They are basically the same as the current CAT C-7 rated at 461 hp. Thread: Cat 3126’s more ho. Join Date: Jun 2011. The CAT 3126 MUI motors do not fail like the after coolers on the 3126 Bs. View Single Post 09-13-2022, 02:44 PM #1 BIG_KEV. Reply Like Mine are pushing 4800 and the last CAT PAR test was good. Hi- new to THT but looking for advice. 3 liter. The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum (https: Cat 3126 1000hr service cost . FYI , if the boat with 3126 Cats are B's instead of A's run away fast. Trying to figure out who made a throttle bracket that is on my Luhrs CAT 3126 engine. They were impacted by a recall at 200 hours to beef up lot's on the motors. I know of a 200x 33ft Rampage with less than 200hrs and a pair of brand new Cat c-7's that can be had for about $180-190. Beutiful ride. I’m curious, I have Cat 3126’s in my 31 Cabo express. View Single Post 06-03-2022, 07:46 PM #6 Fortu CAT tech refers to 5/8th rule based on 70 gals fuel burned. 420 or 450 hp is marginally sufficient for a 36-38' boat (depending upon design), but a little weak for a 40-42' boat. I've found a boat with CATs 3126's with engines installed new in 2003. just bought a boat with twin 3126 350hp. Drove the boat yesterday no problems. One motor finally totally failed. The Cat makes 58. 3126 is 7. At 2000 Rpm one side runs about 30psi while the other is about 20psi. repowered with “rebuilt” 3126’s year before last from a friend. Once work was completed by CAT we followed with Sea Trial. CAT really, really mishandled the design flaw with the 3196 aftercooler leading to the class action and many unhappy customers. Starboard was 9ppm lead and 15ppm iron. One of the gauges is fuel pressure, the range is 0 - 80psi. CAT required that the oil for these engines meet CF4 specifications and has always maintained that multi grade oils, including their own DEO 10/40W did not meet these A highly respected CAT guy said most of the soft block issues in the marine market were related to the 3126, not the 3116, and that CAT replaced the affected engines without hesitation. Like all Lou Codeja designs (regulator, carolina classic) it is heavy. Owned mine for four seasons now. Staarboard has always had a steady buzzer that shuts off at start. The 3126A Cat was a good engine IMO had two of them in a repowered 41 Hatt. Sep 17, 2015 · My 2005 C-7 actually had the same after coolers as the 3126 B. 5 at 2600. Why not call Dan or Gary and talk with them. Shut down. I went to the site he gave me to find this product is for 3126, c7 and any other HEUI type engine. Post 15616403 - TheHullTruth is the premier boating and fishing forum on the web! Need to replace alternator belts on Cat 3126s. All that being said the 3116/3126 is a big heavy motor( for a small straight 6) The Cummins 6BT, QSB 5. Posts: 693 Likes: 45 Friend bought a 32 Albermarle that was serviced by local Cat dealer since new. I've heard many bad things about CAT 3126 built between 2000 and 2003. Had a them in my 1996 boat, total recall at 200 hours, 3 heads over the next 5 years. Brought it to CT from South Jersey. Not a big deal but I am going to try and improve Caterpillar 3126 Engine Zinc Anode KitComplete zinc anode kit for the Caterpillar 3126 marine diesel engine. That boat had CAT 3126 300HP. My vote would be for the 480, but would much rather have the QSC. Post 16797112 - TheHullTruth is the premier boating and fishing forum on the web! Also, why do you guys think the voltage goes down so much as the RPMs go up? With key on and engine completes pre-heat I get 13. It wont simply be new turbos and re-calibrating the injection pump. The CAT specs show it to 2800 RPMs. 2 liter. 5 55 gallon drums. The problem was corrected and the subsequent engines have been good performers. I assume that this is the fuel pressure out of the lift pump but not sure. I have been told by more than 1 other more experienced boater that there were some issues with the earlier Cat 3116 engines but that the 3126 were much better across the board. Props are at the shop getting looked at just curious if there is a way to get a little more speed without too much comprimise on thrush etc. Damn expensive piece of pipe/hose and 2 clamps. (not for Caterpillar 3126B)Kit includes the following engine zinc anodes: QUANTITY 3116's had more issues but both motors shared some of the same problems. I know one is electroinc controlled. while I had floors out. Three cat dealers that we have used (1 MD, 2 NJ) all told me that the failure rates of the 3116 and later the 3126 were very low considering the number of units placed in service. A few turbo repairs under warranty, few starters, really not much else. Spoke to CAT and during work I had them do the rack and both engines. 5 Albe with 300 hp cat 3126. I'm not an expert in Cat 3126 engines but right off the bat, it is my opinion, it will be too costly. Join Date: Sep 2022. esyzm zyyw fbwoij ymmgpkj juycyk eleotx bvqzh fycfm qhgoem djpgr ttod enlprh zqhcbr shuc whw